full name per Thomas M Watkins BC & the family tree from David Price’s baby book

per Thomas’ DC “Wendelin James” is his mothers name... could this be instead the mother of the informant, Watkin Watkins (Gwendolin Jones)?

FreeBMD Marriages Mar 1846   MC #WMXZ255598
Morgan Ann Merthyr Tydfil 26 542
Watkins Watkin Merthyr Tydfil 26 542
the only wat* watkins and ann* morgan in the freebmd
31 jan 1846 in the Parish church of the parish of Methyr Tydfil in the county of Glamorgan
Watkin Watkins; full age; Baller; residence Tydfil Street; father Watkin Watkins, miner
Ann Morgan; full age; residence George Down; Thomas Morgan, collier
*per http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php
BALLER or BALLER UP = Person who measured out the balls of clay for the potter

1851UKC Wales Census > Monmouthshire > Trevethin > District 2r; image 34 of 41 @ancestry.com; Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2449; Folio: 397; Page: 32; GSU roll: 104188-104189.
Civil Parish or Township: Trevethin
Ecclesiastical parish: Abersychan
County/Island: Monmouthshire; Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 2r
Piece: 2449; Folio: 397; Page Number: 32
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Watkin Watkins 26 b abt 1825 Brenowell, Monmouthshire, Wales
OCC Roler of Torns? Lorns? IRONS
Ann Watkins 25 b abt 1826 Ponnarin, Breconshire, Wales (MAYBE PENDARIN??)
(1)Ann Watkins 3 b abt 1848 Murtha, Glamorgan, Wales (Merthyr??)
(2)Elizabeth Watkins 1 b abt 1850 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales

NO!NO! Sep 1856 Deaths WATKINS Ann Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a p 179
21 aug 1856; age 3 wks; daughter of William Watkins
NO!NO! Mar 1857 Deaths Watkins Ann Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a p [2_]14
19 mar 1857; age 38; wife of Thomas Watkins
NO!NO! Mar 1859 Deaths Watkins Anne Merthyr T vol 11a p 27
28 feb 1859; age 5 yrs; daughter of Evan Watkins
NO!NO! 1859 M Qtr GRO Ref: WATKINS ANN MERTHYR TYDFIL Vol 11A Pg 290 10yrs
NO!NO! 1859 M Qtr GRO Ref WATKINS ANNE MERTHYR TYDFIL Vol 11A Pg 279 5yrs
NO!NO! Deaths Dec 1859 Watkins Ann Elizabeth Merthyr T vol 11a p 177
9 oct 1859, age 3 yrs; daughter of Charles Watkins
NO!NO! Deaths Mar 1861 Watkins Ann Merthyr T vol 11a p 265 AGE 35
10 feb 1861 - Aberdare, Ann wife of David Watkins
POSS Deaths Dec 1859 Watkins Ann Merthyr T vol 11a p 203
5 nov 1859; age 35; wife of Watkin Watkins (died of TB)
FreeBMD Deaths Dec 1859 Watkins Ann Merthyr T vol 11a p 203
5 nov 1859; age 35; wife of Watkin Watkins (died of TB)
application number COL897341 DC# WDXZ 138228
Registration District Merthyr Tydfil
1859 Death in the Sub-District or Merthyr Tydfil Upper in the Counties of Glamorgan and Brecon
5 nov 1859 Grawen Terrace Merthyr
Ann Watkins female 35 yrs wife of Watkin Watkins Baller
CoD Phthisis, 12 months certified
informant the mark of John Jones in attendance Cac Paut Luyll Merthyr






looking in the 1851 for other Morgans, b in Pendaryn, living in Merthyr
(maybe the whole family moved, POSS siblings)
1851 Wales Census; Glamorgan Aberdare District 2qimage 72 of 77
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2460; Folio: 510; Page: 71; GSU roll: 104204-104205
Civil Parish or Township: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Glamorgan; Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 2q
Piece: 2460; Folio: 510; Page Number: 71
Household schedule number: 269
Household Members:
Mary Morgan 68 widow (b Aberdare) could be 2nd wife of Thomas???
Thomas Morgan 27 b 1824 Penderyn, Breconshire
Jonathan Morgan 22 b 1829 Penderyn, Breconshire




**** 1841UKC
looking for Ann Morgan b 1826 +/-5yrs in breconshire (or out of county)
keyword MERTHYR
5 possibilites
none with father Thomas
either with widowed wife, poss sibling, or servant with different family

POSS1841UKC Anne Morgan abt 1821 Aberdare, Glamorgan
Name: Anne Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 20; Estimated birth year: abt 1821 (b out of county)
Civil Parish: Aberdare; Hundred: Miskin
County/Island: Glamorgan; Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
Piece: 1420; Book: 1; Folio: 26; Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Thos Morgan 25 schoolmaster
Margaret Morgan 20
Anne Morgan 20

POSS1841UKC Ann Morgan abt 1826 Breconshire, Wales Trallong, Breconshire
Name: Ann Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 15; Estimated birth year: abt 1826; Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Trallong; Hundred: Merthyr
County/Island: Breconshire; Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Devynnock
Piece: 1368; Book: 14; Folio: 5; Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Ann Morgan 15 female servant
-likely with preceding family-
Bly Moses 70 male
Ann Moses 70 female

POSS1841UKC Anne Morgan abt 1826 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Name: Anne Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 15; Estimated birth year: abt 1826 (b out of county)
Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil; Hundred: Caerphilly
County/Island: Glamorgan; Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
Piece: 1415; Book: 10; Folio: 8; Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Amelia Morgan 50
Morn Morgan 25 (Morgan?)
Jane Morgan 20
Anne Morgan 15

POSS1841UKC Ann Morgans abt 1826 Breconshire, Wales Lower and Upper Llandilo vane, Breconshire
Name: Ann Morgans; Gender: Female
Age: 15; Estimated birth year: abt 1826; Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Lower and Upper Llandilo vane
Hundred: Merthyr
County/Island: Breconshire; Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Devynnock
Piece: 1368; Book: 7; Folio: 6; Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Howell Rowell 25 ag laborer
Ann Morgans 15 female servant
likely attached to family preceding:
Thomas Phillips 35 farmer
Elizabeth Phillips 30
Thomas Phillips 8
Elizabeth Phillips 10
John Phillips 5
Howell Phillips 3
William Phillips 7mo

POSS1841UKC Hannah Morgan abt 1831 Gelli gaer, Glamorgan
Name: Hannah Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 10; Estimated birth year: abt 1831 (b out of county)
Civil Parish: Gelli gaer; Hundred: Caerphilly
County/Island: Glamorgan; Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil; Sub-registration district: Gelligaer
Piece: 1414; Book: 8; Folio: 9; Page Number: 10
Household Members
Llewellyn Lewis 40 collier
Susannah Lewis 35
Thomas Lewis 14
Elizabeth Lewis 8
John Lewis 7
Rhoda Lewis 1
Hannah Morgan 10 female servant


NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1821 Aberdare, Glamorgan
Household Members:
David Morgan 20
Ann Morgan 20
David Morgan 9 Mo
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1826 Breconshire, Wales Lower Penderyn, Breconshire
Household Members:
John Morgan 45
Mary Morgan 40
Elizabeth Morgan 20
Ann Morgan 15
Mary Morgan 15
Margaret Morgan 12
Jane Morgan 8
Diana Morgan 4
Martha Morgan 2
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1826 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Household Members:
David Morgan 35
Martha Morgan 35
Ann Morgan 15
Uriah Morgan 10
Benjamin Morgan 5
Mary Morgan 1
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1827 Lower Penderyn, Breconshire
Household Members:
Walter Morgan 45
Gwenllian Morgan 50
Morgan Morgan 20
Ann Morgan 14
John Morgan 12
William Morgan 25
Sarah Morgan 25
Walter Morgan 2
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1827 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Household Members:
Rees Morgan 40
Mary Morgan 40
Elisabeth Morgan 15
Ann Morgan 14
Mary Morgan 12
Sarah Morgan 9
Martha Morgan 7
Isaac Morgan 4
Harriot Morgan 12
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1828 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Household Members:
David Morgan 49
Hanah Morgan 45
Ann Morgan 13
Mary Morgan 4
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1828 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Household Members:
Morgan Morgan 45
Mary Morgan 35
Thomas Morgan 20
Margaret Morgan 15
Ann Morgan 13
Eliza Morgan 10
Thomas Morgan 75
NO!NO! Hannah Morgan abt 1831 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
Household Members:
William Gillard 30
Richard Stone 21
Fredrick Kershley 30
David Morgan 41
Ann Morgan 33
Hannah Fisher 72
Hannah Morgan 10
Susan Morgan 7
Morgan Morgan 5
David Morgan 3 Mo
Mary Fisher 20


-could she still be in Breconshire????-
looking for Ann Morgan b 1826 +/-5yrs in breconshire
keyword BRECON
only 2 possibilities, neither seems likely

POSS1841UKC Mary Ann Morgan; abt 1827 Breconshire, Wales St John the Evangelist, Breconshire
Name: Mary Ann Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 14; Estimated birth year: abt 1827; Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St John the Evangelist
Hundred: Brecon; County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock; Sub-registration district: Brecknock
Piece: 1371; Book: 5; Folio: 28; Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Mary Ann Morgan 14
Ann Mansell 19 female servant
-likely with preceding family-
John Lloyd 50 watchmaker (poss step father?)
Eliza Lloyd 35

POSS1841UKC Ann Morgan; abt 1831 Breconshire, Wales St David, Breconshire
WORKHOUSE
Name: Ann Morgan; Gender: Female
Age: 10; Estimated birth year: abt 1831; Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St David; Hundred: Brecon
County/Island: Breconshire; Country: Wales
Registration district: Brecknock
Sub-registration district: Brecknock
Piece: 1371; Book: 3; Folio: 36; Page Number: 3
together as a group:
Mary Morgan 35 charwoman
Ann Morgan 10
Thomas Morgan 7
Isaac Morgan 5
William Morgan 3
BUT higher on the list there is also a Thomas Morgan age 35 Ag Labourer

NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1824 Breconshire, Wales St John the Evangelist, Breconshire
Household Members:
John Morgan 44
Mary Morgan 45
David Morgan 19
Mary Morgan 19
Ann Morgan 17
Margaret Morgan 15
Edward Morgan 9
Thomas Morgan 8
Lewis Evans 22
Davis Davies 17
Morgan Thomas 17
David Lewis 17
NO!NO! Ann Morgan abt 1830 Breconshire, Wales St John the Evangelist, Breconshire
Household Members:
David Morgan 35
Margaret Morgan 35
Ann Morgan 11
John Morgan 7
David Morgan 5
Margaret Morgan 3
Rees Morgan 1



***
looking for Thomas Morgan if he died 1837-1841 before the 1841UKC


MORGAN, THOMAS 72 (b abt 1765)
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 212

MORGAN, THOMAS 75 (b abt 1763)
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 264

MORGAN, THOMAS 30 (b abt 1809)
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 286
MORGAN, THOMAS 25 (b abt 1815)
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 305

MORGAN, THOMAS 51 (b abt 1790)
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 274